When playing Throne of Lies, it is crucial to keep logs of what you do daily and be prepared to claim your class when Imprisoned by the Prince or when accused on the stand. This also applies if you are evil, have a fake-claim ready in advance with fake logs.
- 1 Unique Classes
- 2 Night Action Order
- 3 Useful Resources for Beginners to Mid-Level Players
- 4 Advice for Evil Killers
- 5 Scum Reading
- 6 Fake-Claiming Healer
- 7 What to claim when playing against Princess
- 8 Frames
- 9 Troll Box Strategies
- 10 Players' Vocabulary
- 11 Immunity
Remember that even if a class is not Unique, there is a limit of at most two people of each class at the start of the game. The only exception to this rule is the Blue Dragon's classes that have a limit of three non-unique starting classes.
Night Action Order
The order of night actions is as follows (with a few exceptions):
- Occupation, Redirection, and Guarding
- Knight Defend
- Granted Immunity (such as King's Safeguard)
- Passive Immunity
- Mercenary Shield
- Reaper's Souls
- Investigative Abilities
Useful Resources for Beginners to Mid-Level Players
Advice for Evil Killers
As Assassin, Cult Leader, or Neutral Killer, it may sometimes be better to actually not attack or not bleed, and instead hope that your opponents execute each other during the day. This is especially useful if you are the last evil killer alive in the game since bleeding or attacking someone who gets healed might do nothing but confirm the victim and his healer as innocent. Eventually, after enough time without deaths, people may execute the king under suspicion that he is the last scum remaining. You may also frame jailed players in this way, encouraging Prince to execute an innocent person and lose his executions.
If you are getting desperate, consider claiming to have been bled in order to buy yourself another night without suspicion.
If you kill the King Night 4 or later, you might be able to win yourself a lot of trust by claiming to be a Butler who poisoned him. This is especially effective if you leave a deathnote corroborating this claim. Unfortunately, if King was Good, the court will know you are evil when you survive the next night.
People who ask the King whether to execute or pardon are often scum trying to deflect responsibility to His Majesty and gain His favor at the same time.
Contrast what could have reasonably been expected to result from a player's decisions with the actual outcome. Generally, judging a player based on the former is a more reliable indicator of their intentions.
Refusing to vote up an evil is often a better indicator of guilt than whether they ultimately voted to execute, pardon or abstain.
Especially in the very late-game, be very cautious about hopping on a voting bandwagon. You might put an innocent player on trial and not be able to pardon him. In some situations, getting accused by too many players can actually prove a person's innocence. For instance, in a 3 v 3 where you are Blue Dragon, and assuming scum don't vote up their own teammates, anyone who gets enough votes to be put on trial must be innocent.
Someone who was previously leading the investigation but becomes suddenly quiet is likely converted.
"Meta" (IRL) excuses are usually low-attempt lies. For example, "Sorry I didn't post my logs because I had a phone call."
If someone is aggressively defending someone (A.K.A white knighting) and the person who got executed flipped as Unseen/Cult, then most likely the person who defended them are their scum buddy. How ever it is possible it is a Sellsword trying to defend scum, or a Fool trying to get killed.
By the time you reach late game, you should look at peoples logs and see what info they have. If a Court Wizard claim has no confirmed Tornados, or an investigative class has found no new or incriminating info, then they should be viewed with suspicion.
Consider publicly claiming that someone unsuccessfully attempted to poison or bleed you, in order to bolster your credibility. This is because real healers (Alchemists and Physicians) are immune to such effects, and the evil faction cannot target one of their own with poison and bleed.
If you're fake-claiming Alchemist as an evil, asking for King's faction in a whisper can improve your credibility, since genuine Alchemists often do this. Bonus points if you promise not to rat him out if he admits to being evil. If King makes a suspicious mistake but continues to claim Blue Dragon, slyly inquire (in whisper of course) if he's sure he's not evil (even if you know he's Good).
What to claim when playing against Princess
When dealing with The Princess, you'll want to claim a class that is of the same type that you are. You should avoid claiming a Unique class, as if there is really one, you will be known to be a fake. If you're converted and it's convenient for you, you can continue to claim the class you were before you were converted.
The types that a Princess can find you to be are:
Type Change When Converted
- Knight: Becomes Support/Social group once converted.
- Court Wizard: Becomes Killer/Offensive group once converted
- Any Blue Dragon Into converted into Assassin will be Killer/Offensive.
When playing as one of these classes, it is important to choose a different class to claim as, so that a Princess doesn't find out you are converted.
Spoony created the original post this claim guide is based off of.
Additionally, these are the results that The Princess receives when using Flirt.
|Target's Class Type||Notification|
|Killer||<target> is a Killer or an Offensive class.|
|Offensive||<target> is a Killer or an Offensive class.|
|Investigative||<target> is a Special or an Investigative class.|
|Special||<target> is a Special or an Investigative class.|
|Social||<target> is a Support or a Social class.|
|Support||<target> is a Support or a Social class.|
When a class is framed, their class type when checked by a Princess changes as below:
Support/Social Classes > Killer/Offensive > Special/Investigative> Killer/Offensive.
Where for example, Supp/Social Classes now appear as Killer/Offensive.
Troll Box Strategies
The Troll Box is an ability both The Scorned and The Fool have which allows you to make another player appear to say something of your choice. They will not know they said it. The following are some strategies for using the Troll Box.
Meta Troll Box
A "Meta" Troll Box is a use of the Troll Box ability to make someone appear to say something about Troll Box itself. For example, The Scorned might Troll Box one of their targets at the end of the day into saying, "Bleeding, please heal", and the next morning again into saying, "I was trollboxed, I wasn't bleeding." Since one cannot actually see their own trollboxes, the target will seem as if they were lying in both instances.
Fake Troll Box
A "Fake" Troll Box is something said by a player intended to appear as if it were a Troll Box. For example, a member of The Cult put on trial after being investigated by a Paladin might inject an out-of-place admission of guilt in the middle of their actual defense, with the aim of convincing the court that they are a target of a Scorned. To illustrate:
- Cult Leader: "I am a physician, I healed 9 last night!"
- Cult Leader: "I'm guilty just exe me I don't care anymore"
- Cult Leader: "If you execute me, you will lose the only healer you have left."
The middle line appears to be an actual use of Troll Box, painting the accused as an innocent victim. This strategy is most effective if the fake trollbox line is prewritten and copied beforehand then pasted immediately after another line has been posted.
You can frame someone as Scorned after the execution of a Blue Dragon member by saying something like, "Hi, I'm 5. I'm Scorned. That was one of my targets. Thanks for the win!", just as the day ends, so they don't have a chance to respond.
Obvious Troll Box
If you are attacked during the night, you may post an obvious trollbox on the King in order to communicate your identity to your attacker and hope that they help you achieve your goal. An example of a Fool trollboxing the King in this way:
- "TROLLBOX: I'm Fool and I was attacked last night. Please don't kill me at night. Help me get executed during the day!"
Please see: Glossary of Terms and Abbreviations
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